A fan of my Amazon reviews sent me not one, but six Mantak Chia books. The fan appreciates my deep and detailed reviews, but opined that I needed to consider the Light or Rainbow Body (held out to be the Summum Bonum of spiritual evolution by some Tibetan Buddhists and Taoists). In the fan’s opinion, while the Tibetans are “unclear about techniques” that enable a yogi to attain a Light or Rainbow Body, renowned Taoist master Mantak Chia has (finally, after decades of teaching) “made these techniques public.” While the fan appreciates the (Ramana-Maharshi-inspired) emphasis I place on the “cutting of the Heart-knot” (as the doorway to full En-Light-ennment) in my reviews, he maintains that the cutting of this knot “is not the final level,” but merely a prelude to getting a Light or Rainbow body, which enables a yogi’s physical body to dematerialize into pure energy.
The timing of his email and books could not have been better. I had just finished my (two-star) review of the “The Natural Bliss of Being,” wherein the author (Jackson Peterson) and I, along with a few others, had engaged in a spirited debate (over the course of 250 + comments) regarding the importance of attaining a Light or Rainbow Body and other related matters. Now, after considering the Light or Rainbow Body in a Tibetan context, I was ready to do so in a Taoist one.
I was already very familiar with Mantak Chia before I received the books. Not only had I read three of his texts 30 + years ago, I had participated in an all-day seminar with him in Marin County (circa 1980), which centered on the Microcosmic Orbit meditation he was emphasizing at the time. I experimented with the Microcosmic Orbit meditation for a while, but found it reductive and remedial (compared to the Daist and Buddhist meditation I was practicing), and eventually Mantak Chia was just a distant memory and another ex-teacher for me.
I quickly zipped through the six books I was sent (I’m a speed reader), and three things became apparent to me: 1) Mantak Chia was guilty of the “Suze Orman syndrome,” of rewriting essentially the same book over and over again and repackaging it under a different title; 2) Mantak Chia was a metaphysical and mystical moron, about as Enlightened as uber-popular “Bieber Buddha” Bentinho Massaro; 3) since “Cosmic Fusion” was the best of the six books (which isn’t saying much) and the only one with any real information on attaining a Light or Rainbow Body, it would be the only one of the six books that I would review. With that in mind, I reread it, took copious notes, and am now ready to discourse on it.
The word “Tao,”means the Way, but the teachings of Mantak Chia have nothing to do with the “Way” expounded by legendary original Taoists Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu, and everything to with the “path” -- endless (literally hundreds upon hundreds) exclusive, reductive, remedial practices or methods. Chia covers a lot of ground with his practices, but it’s all surface-level smoke and mirrors. As soon as he attempts to dig beneath the surface, he reveals himself as a metaphysical meathead.
First off, the claims that this book makes are laughable – unless, of course, you realize that Chia is peddling a long and winding “Stairway to Heaven.” (A shrewd businessman, he estimates it will take “thirty-five books” to convey the totality of his Universal Tao System. Cha-ching!)
Regarding physical immortality, Chia writes:
“One can simply transform the physical body into the immortal body and leave this world or return to it at will. This is the state of complete physical immortality. It takes from eighty to a few hundred years to complete the practices and transfom all the material elements of our body into the immaterial. The final goal is ascending to heaven in broad daylight is reached.
“There are records in Chinese history of many thousands of Taoist immortals who reached the level of daylight ascension in the presence of many witnesses.”
Pure hokum, I say. First off, if it takes eighty to a few hundred years to get an immortal (“rainbow,” according to the Tibetans) body, how did the Tibetans (putatively) accomplish it, since none of them lived that long? Second, people don’t live a few hundred years (let alone eighty years after beginning spiritual practice).Third, the two greatest (original) Taoists, Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu, and none of the great Chinese Zen masters ever mentioned this immortal body, yet “thousands of Taoist masters supposedly attained it. Why is that? Fourth, although Chia (or whoever composed this book for him) talks about the immortal body, it’s just a tease. No detailed practice is provided, and what’s alluded to doesn’t at all mesh with the Tibetan Togal teachings that are said to lead to an immortal, or rainbow, body. For example, Chia has nothing to say about rainbow colors in conjunction with attaining this “immortal” body.
Mantak Chia has come a long way (a long way down, that is) since the early eighties, when he began with just the Microcosmic Orbit meditation and didn’t venture into low-level mystical mumbo jumbo. He now produces bubble-gum-level spiritual books (which he probably doesn’t even personally write). A large portion of this book consists of oversized “feel-good” comic-book type illustrations to glamorize the rudimentary and repetitive visualization and affirmation exercises he teaches. He’ll have you concentrating on one organ after another, and imagining groovy positive changes happening. But there are also some physical exercises. And he informs us, “If you do not strengthen your anal muscles, you will not progress far in the Universal Tao System’s practices.” In other words, forget about getting an immortal body in this incarnation if you suffer from weak rear-end sphincters.
The writing is slipshod. New terms are introduced and not defined. For example, I was confronted with terms such as “pearl” and “pakua,” without their meaning being provided. We are told that there are three bodies – physical, energy, and spiritual – and then later, without explanation, a fourth one, a soul body, is added to the equation. The term ”Higher Self” is also introduced without explanation. Chia writes:
”At this stage of practice, we learn to digest inceasingly higher-grade energies of the Higher Self and Universal Forces from the sun, moon, planets, stars, and galaxies, and from the mind of the Tao itself. An awakening to that which is eternal and enduring occurs through this practice. Conscious of our true nature as spirits, we experience the ability to leave the physical body and travel in the immortal spirit body, which leads to the inner worlds of spirit.”
If anyone is able to digest Universal Forces from the sun, moon stars and galaxies, let me know; I say it’s poppycock. Also let me know how you are able to differentiate these from each other as well as from the energies of the Higher Self. What’s particularly funny is that Chia uses the term “the mind of the Tao itself. The term “Tao” simply means “Way.” How can a “Way” have a mind? Finally, the “travel in the immortal spirit body” and “inner worlds of spirit” are just a tease. Nothing more is said about them in the book.
Regarding the cutting of the Heart-knot, Chia has nothing to say. He identifies two minds in addition to the one in our head – the Heart Mind and the Abdominal Mind – but he places the Heart Mind on the left side of the chest rather than the right, where it properly belongs. Moreover, there is nothing about how the attainment of an immortal body relates to the Heart Mind.
According to Chia, the spirit body is the immortal body, is the Light or Rainbow Body, is the Holy Spirit. If the Holy Spirit is the Light or Rainbow Body, why don’t the great Christian and Jewish mystics speak of a Rainbow body and the dematerialization of one’s physical body? And since the Holy Spirit is a synonym for Shakti, why don’t the great Hindu tantric traditions, such as Kashmir Shaivism, talk about physical dematerialization and the Rainbow body?
In the end, all that Chia leaves us with regarding the attainment of a Light or Rainbow body is an unelaborated-upon reference to uniting Kan (Water) and Li (Fire). If you’re looking for detailed specifics regarding this esoteric alchemical attainment, you’ll have to look elsewhere, or else wait for yet more Mantak Chia’s books in the hopes of eventually getting the secret formula.
Mantak Chia informs us that there are three minds: the regular mind, the heart mind and the abdominal mind. I say there is a fourth mind -- Chia’s, the Muddled, Money-Grubbing Mind selling a “Stairway to Heaven.”
Cosmic CON-Fusion: The Muddled Mysticism of Mantak Chia
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Thanks for your thoughts. I must confess the interview I saw with him and Lilou Mace left me thinking he was just another dirty old man. There might be more, but I would need to hear a female espousing the doctrine to even consider.
Have you ever practiced his meditations? 😉
Yes. I took a seminar under him in Marin County some time between 1978 and 1980.
You took seminar … but probably never practiced yourself, right …
… for example, if you take a look at some other sources, you can find less or more the same stuff as Chia teaches …
Chia’s stuff is remedial, so I never had more than a peripheral interest in it or other similar Taoist teachings.
To directly comment on l gardner comments: he says:
´ If the Holy Spirit is the Light or Rainbow Body, why don’t the great Christian and Jewish mystics speak of a Rainbow body and the dematerialization of one’s physical body´.
Of course they speak of that, didn´t jesus body disappear in the cave??
the hindus do talk of body dissolvement: look for ´soruba samadhi´
this entire book: https://www.amazon.com/Rainbow-Body-Resurrection-Attainment-Dissolution/dp/1583947957
discusses the rainbow body and kencho-a-cho dissolvement in 1998.
Even this buddhist master, who lived for a long time, admitted this was possible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hsu_Yun
people can live on light and ´digest energy´ from sun. for example: Prahlad Jani is an Indian sadhu who says he has lived without food and water for many years. His claims were investigated by doctors at Sterling Hospital, Ahmedabad, Gujarat in 2003 and 2010.[16] The study concluded that Prahlad Jani was able to survive under observation for two weeks without either food or water, and had passed no urine or stool,[17] with no need for dialysis.[18] Interviews with the researchers speak of strict observation and relate that round-the-clock observation was ensured by multiple CCTV cameras.
Next to that, if it would take 80 years……why would it be impossible? People, and especially spiritual masters and healthy living tibetan and taoist masters and yogis, can live very long, to at least 100 or more, so if they start young, all possible.
Anybody studying the taoist system knows what chia means with pearls and pakuas, only someone who does not take the time to study and practice it in depth ( l gardner), does not know this.
In short, l gardner knows a lot, but cannot admit there might be more than his theory. Next to that, he sn incapable of admitting there might be something outside of his ´cutting heart knot´ theory, which does not mean that theory is not true. It is actualy true, i mean ramana maharshi was right that cutting the heart knot is enlightenment………….however it is possible to dissolve the body physically, now this does not mean it is necessary, but it is a possibility which some spiritual masters develop. Now it is no untrue that enlightenment happens when the heart knot is cut, but there are higher levels, three to be precise, in which the physical body can dissolve. Since l gardner never studies these levels, let alone has initiation by a true tibetan or taoist master, how would he know this would exist? It takes long pratice and dedication to receive these techniques, and even in tibet, these techniques for the rainbow body are only transferred orally, not written down, for danger of abuse. Master mantak chia is the first taoist master to write it down.
So, instead of being limited to the ´cutting-heart knot´, ´putting it all together´ and continously ridiculising everybody who does not agree with his view, maybe l gardner should go to a real master, cut his own heart knot, or go to some real masters to learn that there are higher levels and that bodily dissolvment is possible. But of course………..if ego has invested so much effort in ridiculising other people……it is hard to admit one is wrong himself.
So, every argument l gardner makes here, about chrisitianity, about hindiusm not having body dissolvement, about digesting light, about the pearl and pakua, every single argument l gardner makes is hereby countered and taken apart, including the links with the information where to find out.
Time to update the ´ cutting the heart knot´ theory.
regards
I’ve already made my POV clear on this matter, so I won’t repeat myself.
your POV is not complete. And if you do not even study the material which provides the evidence for the contrary, how can you change your mind? You always encourage people to change their mind, to look for a ´putting it all together´ point of view. Your POV is pretty complete, but not totally complete. So just dismiss all this evidence that this is possible??? Only someone completely invested in his own feeling of ´knowing it all´, would close himself of for new points of view and evidence. The spiritual electrical paradigm you provide should be updated. After the cutting of the heart knot, the power or light energy or voltage, or whatever you want to call it, fully ´illuminates´ the body. If one stays in this state long enough, a part, or a large part of the body, or the entire body, can dissolve into this light upon death, which is what happens to jesus, and for example to kencho-a-cho in 1998. Evidence provided. End of argument.
Jan, I will be glad to read and review (at Amazon) any books you send (or Kindle-gift) me on the dissolution of the physical body into light. again, my position is that whether or not the physical body dissolves into Light has nothing to do with spiritual En-Light-enment. Neither Buddha’s, Adi Da’s, Longchen Rabjam’s, nor Ramana Maharshi’s body dissolved into Light upon death.
Hi Ron,
As there are many ways to reach a destination, so too with different practices. Everyone of us will have a different preference and that’s why there are many ways.
I must say that what Mantak Chia thought my teacher Richard Bolstad (Transformations NLP NZ) who in turn took me through the Microcosmic Orbit and in a day’s constant practice I reached a state of electro-magnetic light all around me creating a sense of oneness and elation and yet with full conscious awareness of my physical presence. It’s a precious experience.
Theoretical review may be different to a practical review like looking at a dish and tasting it.
sk, I think the Microcosmic Orbit is a fine practice — I used to do it — but Chia makes a fool of himself when he considers esoteric spirituality.
Reading these constant arguments makes me appreciate the good old regular world of ignorance. Fighting is fighting, here or in heaven.
Terrible reductionist review by a spiritual hungry ghost. Consuming teaching after teaching but getting no where. The micromcosmic orbit is stage one for everyone. . The Buddhist have nothing on the Taoist technology . I am not going to sit down and elucidate the Taoist cosmology for someone so benighted but what I will say is Mantak Chia is great for the stimulation al, accumulation of Jing in to chi and then packing that Chi into the Davis. He does NOT reveal how to turn Chinin Shen and that’s either because he doesn’t know it or refuses to reach it .
Either way he has put in books as far as you can go without a teacher . Don’t listen to this guys . He’s a book review using simple logic and Rhetorical techniques in Lou of discernment and experience with the practices.
I stand by what I wrote in my review.
The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named is not the eternal name
Mr. Gardner,
If ca_cicero the cockroachman deleted all of your Amazon reviews as you and I suspect, that means he is targeting you personally with hate and malice. Since he also lives in California, I am concerned for your well being. I sincerely hope that he does not know where you live in and around San Diego and on the border of Mexico. Please be on your guard just in case this mentally deranged fellow has other evil intentions in his mind towards you. Deleting all of your Amazon reviews is not at all a trivial incident but is also very criminal in action and extremely vicious and malicious in thoughts. Best wishes to you.
Regards,
IJ
IJ, he obviously has mental problems. I live in Mexico now.
I appreciate this review greatly, but it leaves a doubt in my mind: does author even leaves a space for a possibility of attainment a “rainbow body” (it is called in other fringe traditions, or elements of traditions, as diamond body, indestructible body etc.) ? This is a folksy tale, a charming myth which appears in alchemical Taoism, variants of Tantricism (Hindu & Buddhist), in Sri Aurobindo & Theosophists among the moderns.. Of course, this is nonsense. Does anyone in his right mind thinks that someone could, through strenuous exercises of breathing, puffing, controlled imagination, postures & motions, diet, .. transform this, physical body of flesh, fluids, DNA, cells, excrement,… into something that can be dissolved & coalesced at will, teleported to any position in space-time imaginable (and to supposed extra/higher dimensions of Being); something that can be seen by ordinary mortals, but you cannot, say, give it blood transfusion; nor does it have a need or possibility to take a dump?
If yes, I have the Taj Mahal to sell.
As regards Mantak Chia, his are poplar self-help books (at least first 2 of them), but I prefer real scholars like Isabelle Robinet to guru-type promoters- who, anyway, neither achieved nor transmitted anything of value.
Bardon, the attainment of an indestructible Spiritual (or Light) Body, the Sambhogakaya, is possible, but the idea that one’s physical body dissolves at death is untenable to me. Dzogchen Togal teachings make absurd, ridiculous claims regarding its Rainbow Body teachings, and I am right now working on an extensive chapter in the Dzogchen book I’m writing which counters these claims.
I know about Mahayana world-view, but I don’t believe in confusing “worlds”, so to speak. Most high doctrines speak of some kind of supra-physical body (the resurrection body of Valentinus; divine body of Shiite Sufism (cf. Henry Corbin), various types of transformed body David Gordon White & many others have written about, but, if we are to retain a semblance of rationality, this body either: a) appears after the death of a physical body as the new vehicle of consciousness , or, b) it exists simultaneously with living physical body, while center of consciousness may “switch” from one to another. What is not convincing is that a physical body, alive, can be transformed to “rainbow”, diamond,..use any name… non-physical body, leaving no trace of a physical body, so that alive & functioning physical body is *fully* transformed into a supra-physical body & nothing “physical” is left. In my opinion, these are fairy tales belonging to folklore & inflated esoteric tradition that are simply lacking in critical thinking domain. No one in history has ever seen or corroborated such a possibility, and *all*(not frequent, one must admit) tales about it belong to the area of myth (Christ’s resurrection, various tales on Siddhas, Gorak Nath etc. – basically, myths).
IMO, an En-Light-ened yogi attains a Di-vine Light Body when the “vine” of his soul (consciousness) permanently unites with the “vine” of the Sambhogakaya, the Clear-Light-Energy Body. The acquired Light Body is called a Vajra Body, because it is indestructible.
Fair enough. I’ll just add that no person from any tradition (Greek Antiquity, Egypt, various types of shamanism, any Hindu & Buddhist doctrine, Taoist spiritual culture, Sufism, Gnosticism, Kabbalah, Hermeticism, … or disastrous results of the Boxer rebellion in China) has ever attained such a position. There is *absolutely* no proof that such a state is possible even in theory, and all tales on it are just fringe myths from the rain-forest of Oriental imagination, sadly lacking in anything critical.
I’ve been practicing various forms of meditation for over 50 years. I’m certainly no expert but I do have some opinions, for what they are worth. All meditation lead inwards and quiet the mind. It can be a concentration style, breath, mantra, belly.
Then mindfullness which noticing the coming and going of thought, sensation, visual or auditory halucinations often with a consequence of realizing impermanence of all awareness even of concept of self.
Then there is the tantric energy meditations. I’m not very familiar with these and they are often secretive and initiatory like Yoganandas Kria yoga . I learned a simple version from Richard Bolstad which includes imagining an inner smile thru out the body , then stimulating sexual arousal with mild massage of sex organs and combining this with loving imagination then circulating this ” energy” up the spine and down the abdomin in a circuit.
I find it useful as a way to cultivate enegetic concentration and overcome sleepiness, and it leads nicely into a mindfulness insight practice with good focus. .
There is also the Meta/ loving kindness and Tonglin practices of breathing in suffering and out loving kindness and healing.
Jan, I really appreciated this rebuttal and learned a lot from it.
I am thinking that, “Heart-cutting,” has more to do with developing to the point of impersonal compassion – that agape level of unconditional love. Rather than something as dramatic as the word imply.
Mr. Gardner, I really don’t understand your smug determination to takedown as it were Mantak Chia’s teachings. They are practices, and like yoga, the stretch and strength grows overtime and consistency. Yes, some of the books could use sharper editing. And a lot of are truly textbooks and a teacher of great help in actualizing their embodiment. There is no one path. But there’s little value in knocking the paths you didn’t choose.
SebiLew, Heart-cutting has nothing to do with developing impersonal compassion. When the Heart-knot is cut, radiant Blessing (“Compassionate”) Energy ceaselessly flows through the Heart-“hole.” My goal was never to take down Chia’s teachings. I still include his book “Awakening Healing Energy through the Tao”on my Spiritual Reading List. But his later books are unimpressive.
With this comment I do not seek to make a statement about anybody’s constitution, mystical achievement, spiritual experience or least of all the quality of one’s personality. I give you all my love and my respect.
I find that in this age of information, many people may display very insightful (and aggressive) comments due to an intellectual exposure to spiritual and mystical material. Any person can speak of mindfulness, detachment, non-duality, mystical phenomena such as an ethereal body or other principles, and have developed a very sophisticated conceptual mental framework. But we must not forget that such an informed mental state is not the same as actually having developed a mystical capacity or having actual mystical experience. Knowing this we must avoid aggressive convictions of ourselves, for that very mental framework that we have developed is the very thing that keeps us from our actual transcendental experience and actual communion with life as it truly is. The more learned we become, the least we understand those of actual mystical capacity. I do confess I have my own respectful doubts about Mantak Chia.
Let us forego the suffering of intelligent ignorance.
Yours humbly,
Aviilokín K’shi
I don’t know if Mr. Chia is still alive, but I wish my lottery winnings would be as certain that his physical body wouldn’t dissolve when he die.
Mantak Chia is alive and teaching:
https://www.mantakchia.com/
Your vitriol against Mr. Chia and name calling is shameful Western ignorance. He is one of the first if not only person to outline traditional Taoist practices for internal alchemy, which he does well from basic practices to very advanced, little written about higher level formulas. The basic practices are used in all other practices, hence given summaries in other writings. Big shock
Saying that Lao Tzu is an “original Taoist” and doesn’t speak of “this or that”, because what the Tao Te Ching? Lao Tzu or his book did not create Taosim, why do Western people think that is beyond me, also people who say there is “philosophy” Taoism and “religious” Tao, is rediculous. Also people who say Tao is not God, and Taoism has no “God”, ridiculous.
The first chapter says the Tao cannot be named, but the book contradicts itself, and many times says the Tao is a woman goddess, which is for a very long time how the Tao was worshiped and is the most used way to worship Tao today. Chinese religion has all that Mr. Chia is talking about, including stories of monks and holy people living a long time, Buddhism has also, so trying to use Buddhism against, Taoism, is strange, especially Tibetans, who have many stories similar including Tantric lineage masters from India, the Mahasiddhas, and so on.
Using Chan as a comparison is also stupid, as Chan, was brought by Bodhidharma, who himself taught the monks their immortality practices, which spread between Buddha monks and Tao practitioner, so which Chan people are you talking about who don’t know about Immortals? I myself am very grateful for Mantak Chia, a Thai, who preserved much Chinese knowledge from religion, after Western colonialists tried to destroy China, then Mao destroyed all the religious people trying to be like a Western atheist, thank goodness we have this website so we understand our heritages, and how to publicly disparage hard working teachers who want to keep lineages from dying out. Thank you for all your expertise and especially the name calling. And how all the Buddhists and Taoists of thousands of years, nobody knows what they are talking about until this website. Thank you
I don’t know. I studied qigong in an Asian cult for a decade. I experienced a lot of what he is talking about. The light body, a profound and deep connection to nature, the stars, planets, etc. I have since disconnected myself from these energies because although it is as amazing, I came to some realization that was just a step on the path towards true freedom and sovereignty. A lot of qigong is amazing and I still teach it…. But I personally feel the need for hierarchy and master worship is old “matrix”. I might be wrong, but that was a conclusion my soul came to. Still I would read a book over taking a class at this point. Be careful who you “submit to.” I made that mistake already in this life 😀
Qigong is simply a yang chi practice, in contrast to Tai Chi, which is a yin chi practice. Anything else about it is superfluous.
In my opinion, Mr. Chia is sapping a huge fortune from the most deplorable weakness of the Occident, the sex obsession. He came in the States teaching decent Chi meditations, but he soon grasped the soft point, the sex. People are mad for sex and can put their fortunes and health and souls at stake for it. Mr. Chia is praising the virtues of endless sex, but, except a standard beginning warning, he rarely speaks of its risks and downsides. As with every master or guru on the planet, his teachings are nearly perfect. If you do what he says, or even better you become one of his disciples, you are a happy winner. By the way, his many books are evasive, sometimes contradictory, so if you want to reach the promised land, you have to pay, my friend. And big money. His workshops are costly, they are held in high town hotels, but, don’t be fooled, you shall live the workshop as fool as you entered it, waiting for the next occasion to put your poor money in, as a disciple of this wizard. So, you are seduced by your own short mindedness, by your own vices, which, by the way, go deeper and deeper in the dense mist of his teachings. Man, open your eyes, no true master needs you poor money, there is no easy way to reach perfection. Break you free form soul mongers, and start your own journey towards completing your mission of this very life, using your beautiful intelligence and your sharp intuition, on this very earth in this very moment.
Be blessed !