Dumbed-Down, Disintegral, Discombobulated Dzogchen

by L. Ron Gardner

[Note: This is my just-posted Amazon.com review of “The Natural Bliss of Being” by Jackson Peterson.]

Before I begin this review, I should preface it by stating that before reading this book, I was unceremoniously expelled from Jackson Peterson’s Dzogchen Trekchod Facebook group within a couple of days after joining and participating. Clearly Jackson was threatened by my superior understanding of Dzogchen and mysticism in general, and I was perceived as a threat to his Dharma. Jackson posted a final response to me at his Dzogchen Facebook page, but because I wasn’t allowed to respond there, I will do so here. In the latter part of this review I’ll present my response to his response.

The first thing that needs to be said about this book is that the Kindle edition, which I purchased, is grossly overpriced. Instead of $17, an appropriate price (for this 191-page book) would be about half that amount. I ordinarily would not pay $17 for a Kindle book, but in this case I had special motivation to read and review it.

One of the first things that Jackson makes clear in “The Natural Bliss of Being” is that he’s an eclectic mystic who buys into the Perennial Philosophy, particularly as it is expounded in Aldous Huxley’s “The Perennial Philosophy,” which he quotes. I found this laughable, because it’s totally the opposite POV that he espouses at his Dzogchen Trekchod Facebook page. When Jackson wrote that Hindu Sat-Chit-Ananda is not equivalent to Buddhist Nirvana or the Dharmakaya, he became peeved when I argued that it is. Moreover, in this book, Jackson writes that Nirvana is “pure Beingness,” which is exactly what Sat-Chit-Ananda is.

Early in “The Natural Bliss of Being,” Jackson tells us that Eckhart Tolles’s “The Power of Now” is an “excellent book,” which he strongly recommends. Upon reading this, I again had to laugh, because as the foremost expert on Eckhart Tolle’s teachings (see “Beyond the Power of Now”), I consider Tolle to be just a fogged-out pop guru who hit the big time only because Oprah approved and pushed him.

Because this is just a book review, I cannot properly and deeply respond to the multitudinous faults I find with this text. I took ten pages of notes as I read it, and the challenge for me is to decide which faults to focus on. Simply put, I’m unimpressed with Jackson’s understanding and elaboration of spiritual Dharma. But if anyone wants to discuss or debate anything in this book or my review of it, I’m more than game.

Jackson writes: “As discussed earlier, in meditation there is a specific state called samadhi or nondual awareness. In samadhi there is no longer a fixed identity located in specific time and space.”

Unbeknownst to Jackson, there are a number of different kinds (or states) of samadhi, and it bespeaks of gross reductionism to limit and conflate the term “samadhi” with nondual awareness.

Jackson maintains two Dzogchen group Facebook pages – Dzogchen Trekchod and Dzogchen Thogal, because what he specializes in teaching is Dzogchen. But amazingly, this book, putatively about Dzogchen, has zero, zilch, nada information about the two principal practices of Dzogchen – Trekchod (Trekcho) and Thogal (Togal). Moreover it has no information about the Trikaya (Dharmakaya, Sambhogakaya, Nirmanakaya) or the Base, Path, and Fruit. Anyone who knows anything about Dzogchen knows that any modern Dzogchen book that doesn’t address Trekcho, Togal, the Trikaya, and the Base, Path, and Fruit is a joke.

What this hodgepodge mysticism book does have is lots of recycled surface-level Advaita Vedanta and plenty of postmodern Buddhist bromides. In typical postmodern Buddhist style, Jackson doesn’t capitalize the term “Self-realization.”  For him, spiritual Awakening or Enlightenment is “self-realization.” This is farcical. It is the Self that is realized, not the self. Moreover, Jackson himself denies the existence of a self-entity, so how can there be “self-realization” for a non-self?

Jackson writes, “There is also the possibility that there is an authentic spiritual beingness within us. That state of spiritual being has profound meaning existentially. There simultaneously exists our imagined self, consumed wholly of thoughts reflective of our conditioning. The latter is called the ego in psychological and common usage. The former is what is revealed in enlightenment. The difference between the two is only a thought away.”

Again, this is superficial nonsense. The gap between a brief moment of no-mind and the realization of Being-ness, or the One Mind, or universal Self, is immense. Five sheaths (or coverings), detailed in real Advaita Vedanta teachings, separate the jiva (or embodied soul) from awakening to his true, or transcendental, Identity as the Self, or Buddha.

Jackson, in alignment with other (directly or indirectly/implicitly or explicitly) Derrida-influenced post-structuralists, reduces the Self to a self that is merely an activity of observation. He writes: “The true nature of our beingness is this undefined and objective observing that has no name, identity, or history.”

Our True Self, or Being-ness, is not “observing.” It is Sat-Chit-Ananda, or Siva-Shakti. The Self-Existing, Self-Aware, Self-Radiant Self, the Great Seer, cannot be reduced to mere seeing or observing.

I could go on and on deconstructing Jackson’s Dharma, but I will stop at this point and turn my attention to his final response to me, which I wasn’t allowed to respond to at his Dzogchen Facebook page. Here’s the first part of what he wrote (if I included the whole thing, this review would be way, way too long).

“LRon, it's a shame you don't read what I write. It's all fully explained and is nothing like you represent. It seems your opinions are full of your disregard for all others, except your own views. Your arrogant disdain for Nagarjuna says it all...

"Oy veh! A little knowledge about a lot of topics can make a messy soup of ideas! LRon, where to begin? The brain creates thoughts, intentions and actions. It also creates emotions and speech and movement. It creates the world you see and experience. There is no free will and no one to have free will. Those are just brain tricks…”

I’ll begin from the top. First, I have now read Jackson’s book, and the teachings in his book are as easy to deconstruct as the same ones at his Dzogchen Facebook page. Second, I have plenty of regard for certain other spiritual teachings, just not his. Third, I stand by my criticisms of Nagargarjuna’a illogic (made clear in my Amazon reviews), and I invite Jackson, or anyone else, to attempt to deconstruct what I’ve written.

My brain does not create the world I see and experience; it interprets it. Scientific instruments exclusive of my brain would verify that my body is a certain height and weight, and living. And my brain does not create the computer that sits in front of me; if someone excised my brain, my computer would still be sitting on my desk. If one’s brain, via “tricks,” creates one’s world and experiences, then why read Jackson? -- since that means everything he writes must necessarily be a product of his “trickster” brain, rather than a valid description of any objective reality. Jackson may not have free will (and may be a robotized Dzogchen dummy controlled by puppet strings, for all I know), but it is self-evident to me that I have free will. I, of my own volition, chose to write this review.

Jackson has read some modern neurology, brain science, and quantum theory – and so have I. And nothing he writes on these subjects impresses me. He refers to everyone’s favorite String Theory author –Brian Greene (a pathetic cosmologist, in my opinion) -- to support his idea of a “cosmic hologram.” Oh yes, the String Theory that Greene has championed for decades still has zero experimental evidence to support it. Moreover, plenty of other astro-physicists and cosmologists do not buy into his “holographic paradigm.” It’s all just speculative cosmic mumbo-jumbo at this point, but Jackson will impress the non-cognoscenti with his pseudo-profound “quantum ramblings” and attempt to marry pseudo-leading-edge science with his own brand of discombobulated, hodgepodge mysticism.

Jackson, a la his hero best-selling author Sam Harris (see my two-star review of “Waking Up”), makes it a point to diss astrology, even going so far as to label it “New Age magical thinking.” What a crock. Astrology is neither New Age nor magical. It is an ancient art-science based on sound astronomical principles that Jackson doesn’t have a clue about. Whereas I can debate pop-level quantum physics and cosmology with Jackson, he can’t debate astrology with me, because he knows nothing about it.

In summary, this book doesn’t cut the mustard as either a Dzogchen or general mysticism text. It consists of the ramblings of a maverick, postmodern, post-structuralist mystic who may dazzle the spiritual “sheeple,” with his cosmic, deconstructionist ruminations, but not the spiritual cognoscenti, who will reject his Dzogchen-ized pontifications as deficient and disintegral.

{ 26 comments… read them below or add one }

nico August 17, 2015 at 1:54 pm

Mr. Gardner,

It seems to me that this review was already written before you red the book.
The book is written for the “beginner”. It gives an overview of the different methods and in that it succeeds well in my opinion as a beginner.
I think you just want to get even in stead of giving a serious review. Do you really think you get respect by boasting about your “knowledge” ?
I seems to me that you estimate your self (not capitalized !) too high.

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L. Ron Gardner August 17, 2015 at 7:25 pm

I thoroughly read the book BEFORE I wrote the review, which I’m quite happy with it as it is.

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GT January 25, 2020 at 10:07 pm

Hey brother,

Was somewhat disappointed to read your review. My overwhelming sense in reading this was that Longchenpa would be shaking his head… ha! Boasting that you are “expert” in something where expertise should bring humility, discernment, compassion, and a view of the illusory nature of all Dharmas doesn’t add up. Didn’t pick up on many manifestations of someone who has realized and become stably immersed in their true nature here. It seems your knowledge of these subjects would suggest you’re an intelligent, high-capacity dude with a lot of potential as a human being. Wishing that you take the teachings to heart and make peace!

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L. Ron Gardner January 28, 2020 at 4:07 am

GT, Longchenpa would really be shaking his head if he could read my forthcoming Dzogchen text, because I ream him in it. Why do I ream him? For pushing bullshit Dzogchen Togal teachings that are antithetical to the Great Perfection, and promoting them as superior to Trekcho.

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Shane Hanner October 24, 2015 at 2:26 am

You should re-write this and try to make an educated argument because this just makes you sound like a pompous know it all who’s head is too big to ever recognize real truth. Im sure you are not, Im just saying it sounds that way from this writing.

Also, if free-will is real, then explain to me how you picked your parents? And away we go!

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Shane Hanner October 24, 2015 at 2:27 am

*whose
not who’s

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L. Ron Gardner October 24, 2015 at 3:52 pm

Shane, I don’t believe in unlimited free will (or volitional will power). One cannot do whatever one wills. Moreover, some people have more free will than others. While one person may not be able to stick to a diet and quit smoking, another with more free will (or volitional will power) can do so.

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rob November 25, 2015 at 4:22 pm

hi. it seems strange to me, that mr p. has an obvious problem with the least idea about lung wang and lineage that will enhance or establish the meaning of the texts he so freely offeres tohis “students” including terminology of dzoghchen, which will always be from a very distinct background in culture language and what you know. i can o ly say it is such a a great experience to have anauthentic teaching from an authentic teacher in an authentic manner. also someone whoacknoledges the teaching in their completenesss. so i hope mr. p. will eventually get there, too. may all sentient beings be liberated.

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rob November 25, 2015 at 4:27 pm

hi. it seems strange to me, that mr p. has an obvious problem with the least of an idea about lung, wang and lineage. only such empowerment will traditionally enhance or establish the meaning of the texts, he so freely offeres to his “students” including terminology of dzoghchen, which will always be from a very distinct background in culture, language and what you know. i can only say it is such a a great experience to actually have an authentic teaching from an authentic teacher in an authentic manner. also someone who acknowledges the teachings in their completenesss. so i hope mr. p. will eventually get there, too. may all sentient beings be liberated.

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ZY July 18, 2016 at 2:30 pm

Your review would have been more credible if it were not for your immense ego. If you know what you claim you know, how is it you are still so obviously under the sway of ego? I ask this in hope of your honest reflection.

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L. Ron Gardner July 18, 2016 at 3:29 pm

My ego is infinitesimal compared to Jackson Peterson’s. Moreover, my review is either accurate or inaccurate regardless of the size of my ego. I say it’s accurate.

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Costa November 21, 2016 at 11:01 am

Reality is beyond words…it is beyond ideas..it is beyond thought. Maybe you are just still reading the menu. And the menu is not yours! A zen master would just give you a slap on the face and say “wake up!”

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L. Ron Gardner November 21, 2016 at 7:31 pm

There are no living, or recently deceased Zen Masters. If you think Maezumi Roshi or Sasaki Roshi, or Adyashanti, et al. were/are En-Light-ened, you’re barking up the wrong tree. As I make clear in “Beyond the Power of Now,” Zen’s anti-mind, anti-metaphysics philosophy has created major problems for this tradition.

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Gerald November 29, 2016 at 3:05 am

Hello Mr. Gardner,

To confirm your take …

I first met Jackson several years ago by way of his (then?) Yahoo Group. I had studied with the Hindus for a few years and had recently started studying Buddhism. Very little of what he said back then made sense to me, it was more like parroting. But I was inspired to eventually find a lineage to study Dzogchen with, which I did, so I retired to devote my time to study. Several years later and studies “complete” I found it funny to find Jackson on FB. I asked to join a couple of his groups. The first one (maybe there are 3, because this one was “Dzogchen Discussion”) I was immediately expelled from when I brought up the Yahoo days. Once I was accepted to the Thogal group, I played my cards differently because I had always wondered ~who~ told him to teach, and what he studied. He provided a pedigree of hodge podge with a comment that “Norbu” (presumably Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche, if so it is funny how he left off the Rinpoche) told him he could teach Semde (the mind series in Dzogchen). Eventually we got into a discussion. My experience as confirmed by several Lamas was different from what he was saying. At one point he told me that my understanding was wrong and that I should share his definitions with my Lamas. I laughed at him, told him how we had met years ago, that his confusion led me to seek an authentic teacher, and that I had successfully completed my studies according to my Lamas. Again immediately expelled, which reminded me of something my Lamas taught related to Dzogchen – maybe you still experience negative emotions, that is normal, but they should not control you. The man either has something to hide, or was angry, or both. Otherwise why would I be expelled twice? (three times if you go back to the Yahoo Group).

Bottom line for me, there are a lot of fakes out there, hopefully people can see this and move on to true teachers. Jackson Peterson, in my humble opinion, is not worth listening to especially when there are so many monastery trained monks around.

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L. Ron Gardner November 29, 2016 at 5:24 pm

Gerald, I share your opinion of Jackson Peterson. One of my students also had a negative experience with him.

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Dorie Wangchuk June 20, 2018 at 3:42 pm

Sweet Jesus! You have “students”?!?!? Run away, students, run away!

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perry December 2, 2016 at 4:36 pm

I’m sorry but the reviewer is full of Ego and seems like he just likes to collect intellectual knowledge but has no actual experience of the real no-thing.

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Clarita Maia March 19, 2017 at 2:12 pm

The only thing I have to say is that people like Jackson Peterson will destroy Dharma! Lineage is FUNDAMENTAL and what he writes in his Dzogchen Thogal Facebook group is a serious breach of samaya! Flee from his ignorant “guidance” and have compassion for the unfathomable karma he is generating.

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Denis April 5, 2017 at 11:40 am

the pointing finger may be seen and detailed, but the moon is not seen

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Malcolm Kirke July 17, 2017 at 1:53 am

I am sure,Clarita, that lineage is not fundamental. No lineage, no person and no group has the exclusive right to state the truth as it is seen. Spiritual teachers can arise from anywhere. The truth can make itself known without the benefit of any lineage.

I take what I can use from anyone; if the well runs dry for me, I move on. I certainly don’t waste a lot of time and energy putting down those I don’t agree with. I might be wrong, after all!

I am in no position to criticize either Peterson or Gardner; but I do agree with Gardner that Peterson’s book is overpriced! I have enjoyed reading it, though, didn’t return it for a refund, which I don’t hesitate to do if I don’t like a book.

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Sherry Hughes April 12, 2018 at 2:44 am

Malcom Kirke, your knowledge about lineage is incorrect. You must understand the purpose of lineage. The whole idea of lineage is to ensure that the teachings and teacher are authentic and that they remain an effective means of bringing about spiritual growth in suitably-disposed individuals. When considering whether to receive spiritual instruction from a given spiritual guide, what their lineage is, and who ‘endorses’ them, all we actually need to do is identify whether or not they have genuine spiritual presence. If a teacher has genuine spiritual presence, then this means that they are a Dharma lineage holder. For a practitioner, questions you must ask, if it isn’t said, what is the lineage? For me anyways, this is what I ask

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Cynthia December 13, 2017 at 11:46 pm

Although I agree completely on the comments about Ekhart Tolle, and find them well expressed, the rest of the document makes me feel sick to my stomach. The sheer volume of anger, grandiosity, narcissism and self righteousness is nauseating. It’s not just not spiritual, it’s filled with the rage of a toddler. This smacks of an ego wound that was broken open and needs an outlet, classic psychopathology. The non self aggrandizing adult would have made it a few sentences of mild nature and kept it moving. Instead now I will spend the money to buy his book, if for no other reason than to see what it has to say. You’ve promoted him unknowingly in the long run.

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L. Ron Gardner December 14, 2017 at 3:09 pm

Each to his/her own — but I deal with facts and Dharma consideration in my book on Tolle, not character assassination or diatribes. I suggest a chill pill until you get a grip on the true nature of my Tolle discourse.

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Christopher szendroi September 22, 2018 at 7:17 pm

Knowledge is very humbling!.

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Mark Huston September 3, 2021 at 11:38 pm

Unfortunate the reviewer is blinded to this by his resentment.
Over the 8 years I have followed Jackson I have observed a few people as the reviewer come and go, usually those more interested in starting fights than being open to learning and benefitting from what is there. Sad really.

After 30 years of almost constant spiritual and personal development and experimentation, I have found Jackson Peterson to be the most amazingly generous teacher of all.
He only occasionally hold retreats he charges of, of course to cover his expenses.
He offers a constant daily endless stream of information, teaching I have found mind transforming, all for free.
Amazing really.

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L. Ron Gardner September 4, 2021 at 3:03 am

Mark, I stand by what I’ve written about Jackson Peterson. Again, I have little regard for his spiritual understanding and teachings.

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