Geistians, Zeitgeistians, and Trans-zeitgeistians

by L. Ron Gardner

The word “Geist” is German, and means Spirit or Ghost. A “Geistian” is a person who lives in the timeless Holy Spirit (or Ghost). Such a person lives in the world, but is not of the world, is not of the zeitgeist, the spirit of the times. A Geistian is, spontaneously, a trans-zeitgeistian, for he always transcends, and is not implicated by, the zeitgeist, the temporal sociocultural milieu.


An individual can be a trans-zeitgeistian without being a Geistian. Such non-conformists and esotericists are “outsiders” who recoil from the madness and mediocrity of the mainstream sociocultural milieu, but their alienation is devoid of a Transcendental Abode that offers Sanctuary from the time-bound madness. These individuals understand the “phenomenology of the spirit (of the times),” but until they grok the “noumenology of the Holy (or Sacred) Spirit,” they will be stuck in “no-man’s land,” a place between the zeitgeist and the Geist.

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FEDERICO November 10, 2018 at 9:34 am

Dear Ron,

Following the thread of your words, it is surprising to observe how each finite time segment acts as a wall for man to access the transcendental Being. The flow of the present and the spirit of the given profane time covers the timeless presence of the Spirit. However, paradoxically, only through the infinite present without duration can one access the timeless, the divine dimension of existence. That is why every man, blessed and enlightened by the Paraclete, at all times can merge with the Divine. The Supreme Being is always here and at the same time beyond, inside and outside of us, as our most intimate and true nature. To stop looking for him in the flow of time and find him in the sacred seat of the Now allows us to savor a little of his infinite and immaculate texture … as they say the beautiful phrase used by the mystical Christians, to seek God is to insult him.

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IJ January 31, 2019 at 1:26 am

Mr. Gardner,

I wanted to read a certain review of yours of a certain book at Amazon and found to my dismay that all of your reviews except one is there. What happened to all of your other reviews? The only review of yours at Amazon today is of The ‘One Thing’ Is ­Three: How the Most Holy Trinity Explains Everything Kindle Edition by Michael Gaitley.

Trust you are doing fine otherwise. Take care and kind regards,
Sincerely,
IJ.

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L. Ron Gardner January 31, 2019 at 7:35 pm

IJ, Amazon, without notice to me, suddenly deleted my reviews, but apparently missed the single one left. They have also banned me from posting any more reviews at Amazon. They claim that I “violated Amazon Community Standards,” but refused to give me any explanation beyond that. As you can imagine, this is quite disturbing to me, and I’m very unhappy about it. But there is nothing I can do about it, so I will recover the reviews I can, and gradually post them here at Electrical Spirituality.

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IJ February 1, 2019 at 1:22 am

Mr. Gardner,

Amazon is lying as always telling lies and giving lame excuses. They (moderators) have no rules and regulations to follow and obey but expect others to follow them what they themselves do not. They can do whatever they want. I miss reading your reviews, even the older ones. Amazon is the biggest loser. Shame on them. They are going to bust the way they behave. This is censorship at its worst as done in Muslim countries.

IJ.

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IJ February 1, 2019 at 1:56 am

Mr. Gardner,

Remember when Green used to suspect that ca_cicero was a moderator at Amazon. He may have deleted all of your reviews as well and barred you from posting anymore. I would not doubt that it happened or this being a possibility at all.

IJ.

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IJ February 3, 2019 at 7:29 am

Mr. Gardner,

I know you are very disappointed and I can understand how you feel about this. I saw this one article on Amazon reviews being deleted for stupid reasons which pretty much sums up how Amazon is involved in dictatorial censorship instead of spreading freedom of speech and thought as it should .

Why Most Amazon Reader Reviews are Worthless
A longtime agent dissects the Amazon reader review
By Peter Riva | Oct 28, 2016

The Amazon reader reviews are today’s equivalent of manipulating the numbers. How is the book a success? You would think blurbs or actual media and viral reviews would be the most important criteria for Amazon’s algorithm assessing positioning and promotion. Nope, those have no mathematical number to plug into a formula. So is it the public reviewers’ average rating? Not alone. What Amazon does is akin to the cheap tailor’s quip over the cost of a suit fabric: “Never mind the quality, feel the width!” One hundred reviews at three stars becomes more valuable commercially than 10 at five stars. Crudely speaking, 300 of anything is more valuable than 50.

Should we all be paying for reviewers? There are services that do so for serious fees. Google “buy Amazon reviews” and they will turn up. If Amazon finds out that reviews were purchased, it will sue, but are those who purchase reviews frauds or are they fighting an already-corrupt system?

Now, publishers know this reality. We all know this. Every major publishing house we deal with, every editor, asks our authors to have all their friends and colleagues pre-order their books and write reviews immediately on pub date, and preferably buy copies the week of release to drive the profile. Does anyone really believe that a branded author’s reviews, queued up for the morning after release, are all suddenly written by quick readers? Oh, come on. It’s the Times 10-store whip around in an Internet-age version. It’s fighting fire with fire.

Publishers get blurbs from bestselling authors. Does that do it? Nope. Then they, along with us agents, solicit viral media reviews. Does that work? Nope. The only thing driving sales at Amazon is the number of reader reviews coupled with the number of stars for any given title. No blurb or traditional literary review counts in Amazon’s positioning of any title.

However, in a somewhat misguided way, Amazon is now making efforts to alter the reader-review process. It has a new algorithm that produces messages such as this one: “Our data shows elements of your Amazon account match elements of other Amazon accounts reviewing the same products. In these cases, we remove the review to maintain trust in our customer reviews and avoid any perception of bias.” For instance, if you have ever, at any time, become a friend of an author on Facebook or Goodreads, your honest review will be expunged. You have no recourse. “Maintain trust”? That’s a joke. Weed out the little guy (likely to be a genuine reviewer) and perpetuate the status quo, more likely.

So, here’s my challenge to Amazon: Prove that every single review is not by an employee, friend, associate, or colleague of any publisher or media company. Then it can invoke its discriminatory censorship. Until then, it is trampling on First Amendment rights and playing into the hands of what is, after all, a nonliterary, mathematical rating system.

Peter Riva has been a literary and licensing agent for over 40 years, as well as a television and film producer.

IJ.

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Bill February 8, 2019 at 4:54 pm

Must say, I am quite disappointed that all of your amazon reviews have been removed. Actually, it’s disgusting. Are you able to at least contact amazon to see if they can provide you with your reviews they removed? Pretty disturbing.

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L. Ron Gardner February 8, 2019 at 5:31 pm

Amazon won’t provide me with them

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Bill February 8, 2019 at 7:22 pm

Damn. Probably incorrectly flagged by their algorithm searching for bots and false reviews. I’d keep calling and pressuring them, hopefully, they’ll do something for you. This is seriously a lost for many serious seekers out there. As a formerly clueless seeker reading garbage spiritual books, and having come across one of your reviews which put me on the right path, I can say that this is a true loss for many seekers in the world.

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L. Ron Gardner February 9, 2019 at 10:40 pm

Thanks for the support, Bill. There is nothing more I can do to get my reviews restored, but those who appreciate them can contact Amazon and lobby for their return.

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Bill February 10, 2019 at 1:32 am

Hello L. I actually did just that. Contacted amazon to complain.

Cheers

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L. Ron Gardner February 11, 2019 at 4:57 pm

Thanks, though it has next to zero chance of doing any good.

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red February 11, 2019 at 7:18 am

“noumenology of the Holy (or Sacred) Spirit”

Do you believe it is 100% in one’s hands to realize/actualize this ? If so, it contradictory to believe in the concept of “noumenology”. It is just another illusion/maya.

Things are not random. “Noumenon” is just thought-experiment/another-illusion. There is one thing that is certain (“non-random”) though….ignorance and non-ignorance (karma and dharma are its causes/solutions respectively).

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L. Ron Gardner February 11, 2019 at 5:13 pm

“Noumenology of the Holy (or Sacred) Spirit” means realizing it as it is, as palpable Light-Energy. It is not an illusion, or Maya-Shakti. It is Shakti itself.

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red February 12, 2019 at 8:17 am

Is this Shakti an experience, or a state, or an attitude, or one’s expression/being.

How do you embody it?

One has to express/”be” something to be/experience it.

Buddha’s noble-eightfold-path is that “expression”.

Without expression, it’s all just thought/illusory made-up stuff. One might as well self-hypnotize.

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L. Ron Gardner February 12, 2019 at 4:17 pm

Read my books, wherein I elaborate on Shakti and embodying it.

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David Sutherland February 21, 2019 at 1:35 pm

Being banned from Amazon is a compliment of the highest order.
Do not waste one moment of unrest on this.
Rejoice……Amazon does not want anyones truth unless it can sell it for a profit.
David

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L. Ron Gardner February 22, 2019 at 4:33 pm

Thank you for your support regarding my reviews. I should have all my reviews that I can recover posted here before the end of the year.

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